THOMAS, dit TRANCHEMONTAGNE
May 1, 2003:
(continued from the Goulbourn page (MAGEE / McGEE family)
Thank's for posting that for me. I am fairly new at the research for the Ottawa Valley
but I might be able to help a few people out. My Thomas last name is actually
Thomas Dit Tranchemontagne so it might be hard to find any that might be related in Ontario.
I had found a Book though that was created for the Founding Families of Papineauville and that is
where my Thomas started pretty well. I only found out how to spell Tranchemontagne when my
father passed away two year's ago. He was buried in the family plot in Rockland. I never
new there was a family plot there.
I do have a bit of information on KNOX family in Nepean (Knoxdale Road) as well. There is a site
already on the internet for the Knox Family a Distant cousin created it. The Moore Family of Richmond
is in my Family Tree also, I have bits and pieces on them. There was a James Scott Moore who married
my Great Aunt Rebbeca Thomas" Tranchemontagne". She used Tranchemontagne in the Marriage Certificate.
She is buried in Rockland but I can not find James or his Parent's burial anywhere. James'
Grand Father was David Moore married to Mary Ann Clark. They are buried in Richmond.
Most of my road blocks are because of death's it is hard to find an age if you do not have
birth or Death. Even this Magee McGee family the only McGee I found was in 1821 Census for
Archibald Magee in 1822 he change is last name to McGee he is also a son of the Alexander William Magee.
If I could figure out an age when most of the Brother's and sister arrived in Canada I might find
out where they moved to ?
(the Late) Cheryl Thomas
----- Original Message -----
From: Al Lewis
To: Cheryl & Ray ; Ellen Paul ; Frank Watters
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: McGee Magee Families
Thanks for your e-mail - this is interesting. Was Tranchemontagne a French and Catholic
surname? If so, I have some Tranchemontagnes who were in Bytown real early, 1830's. They were
related to some of the main French families (Potvins, Alberts, etc.) who later married into a
lot of the Irish Catholic families.
How about the Moores and Clarks - some of them were Catholic and some were Protestant in the
Richmond area. We have most of the Catholic records from Richmond, going back to 1836, thanks
to Ellen Paul who has transcribed them. She is interested in the St. Denis and Shannon surnames.
Frank Watters has a lot of info regarding the Chartrand and Potvin families. He's also
interested in the family of Edward Dodge (French or Irish?). I have a feeling that all of these French
families are related and they seem to have a pattern of coming from Quebec to the Ottawa area and then working west of Ottawa (Fitzroy,
Madawaska areas and they had ties to Western Quebec later on - Fort Coulonge area maybe?
I know from oral history (from Art Albert) that they worked in the winters in the timber shanties in that area for generations.
Art Albert drove the first bulldozer on the Dumoine River.
Here's a record from Ellen's database of Notre Dame (Sussex Street, downtown):
27 Apr 1844 After three publications of banns, marriage of Joseph Potvin, a minor and natural
son of Marie Potvin, resident in Bytown, to Victoire Brule, minor daughter of Alexis Brule
and Genevieve Thomas dite Tranchemontagne of the parish of Notre Dame de Bon Secours of the
Petite Nation in Lower Canada.
Witnesses: Thomas Brule & Leon Chauvin
Frank's page regarding Edward Dodge is at http://www.bytown.net/gdodge.htm
I'm sending a copy of this e-mail to Ellen and Frank, as they're both interested in these families.
Hi All (and Al of course);
Should anyone want more information on the Thomas dit Tranchemontagne family, I have lots on them
from the 1700's onward. At that time, the family was in Trois Rivieres, from there they
went to St Cuthbert, Qc., and then on to Rigaud, Qc. Montebello (La Petite Nation, which
includes Papineauville) and finally Ottawa.
I've also continued to update my Dodge family info as well.
On another subject Al, I know I'm late on my promised add'l info on the Potvin, and other
Ottawa French early families, but I've been busy trying to complete my Watters family from
the 1800's and early 1900's. Have found a few married in Church of England, which is unusual
as they were all originally R. C.. Found a few other connections to my Albert family up
around Masham in the Gatineau Valley, as well.
Have also added to some of the early French families around Osgoode and Metcalfe, some of
whom married into the Turner and Collins families, including the Potvin's. Some came from
St Jerome and others from Ste Therese.
Also noted a Durkin family from Osgoode that wound up in Perth later on. (Lanark County).
Will add the McGee Magee families to my "research" list.
Hi Francis and Al
I took a Quick look at for Genvieve Thomas Dit Tranchemontagne and Alexis Brule but could
not find them in the Book I purchased for the 19 founding Families of Papineauville. Odd enough
I know I have seen these names numerous times but can not figure out where??
I have not included all of the names from the book into my file but have any that a living
individual sent me. My site at Tribal pages may have a few different families you might be
interested in. if you know who Genvieve's parent's are let me know I can add the information
from below to my file.
http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/cat2002 (Lots of names here ... Al)
I am Descendant of Francoise Thomas Dit Tranchemontagne and Catherine Ribard married
31 December 1706 Rouen Normandie, France!
Alexis Brulé, s/o Alexis and Marie Lamy married Genevieve Thomas dit Tranchemontagne,
d/o Joseph Thomas dit Tranchemontagne, and Marie Sylvestre in Ste-Madeleine, Rigaud, Qc.
on Jan. 9, 1786.(see below for date change ... Al) (Source: PRDH).
One of their daughters, Victoire aka Victorine, born and baptised in Montebello in 1832,
married Joseph Payment (Paiement) whose son Thomas was Mayor of Ottawa for a couple of
years about 1900. Victorine died of fright just a few days after the Great Fire in Hull
in 1900 while visiting her son-in-law F. X. Leroux in that City.
F. X. Leroux and his wife, Victoria Payment were married in Osgoode on May 25, 1886.
The above Victoire Brulé should not be confused with her sister, also christened Victoire,
born in 1827, who married Joseph Potvin, son of Marie Ovide Potvin.
You may already be aware of all the above, but in case you didn't I thought I'd mention.
Hi Cheryl and Al;
A correction to my last message. The date of the marriage of Alexis Brulé and Genevieve
was 10 Feb., 1812, in Rigaud, not the Jan. 9, 1786 as I wrote.
That last date was that of the marriage of Genevieve's parents in the same place.
Sorry about that error.
June 23, 2003:
Hi, my name is Pam. I was also wondering about the Thomas line. My mother
was a Thomas. My Grandfather's name was Raoul Thomas He was born September,
4 1904. He married Ide Delaurier / Deslauriers, her birthday was July 2, 1907. My
grandfather was born in St. Remi d'amherst. His parent's names were John
Thomas and Angeline Proulx. If you have any information on any of the
Thomas/Delaurier families i would really like it. I am trying to do a
family tree for our family reunion. Thank you very much.
September 4, 2003:
There is also the thomas dit Tranche montagne in my family so,am familiar
to the name.,also i have here the series:
Né d,une race fiere; par Jean Roch Rochon that mentions.
François Thomas (dit tranc....)Married Catherine Mondoux
13 -05-1734 a trois rivueres Quebec
François Tranchemontagne to Petronille Boulanger
20-11-1756 Trois rivieres Quebec
And on to Married to M.Anne Denomme
Claire Ida Seguin
Gisele Tranc.... To Raymond Lefebvre at Rigaud
Lots More information
François E. Guenette
March 24, 2004:
Hi, my name is Eric Tranchemontagne. My Grandfather's name was Charles Edward Tranchemontagne
born in 15 mars 1896. Claude had one brother who is still alive, his name is Roland Tranchemontagne.
We would like to know if you could provide us some information, of any kind, related to our family.
We are very excited of what we have seen so far.
December 6, 2004:
I would love to add a note to all those email's I just received
for the Brule and Potvin lines but most of my
information came from Francis Watters.
I can add information on the Thomas family though. Genevieve Tranchemontagne
had a sister Marie Josephte Tranchemontagne. There Father connect's me to
both of my GGreat Grand Parent's Francois Tranchemontange and Euphrasin Lavallee.
Confusing but here is the smaller picture
Francois Thomas Dit Tranchemontagne Married Marie Josephete Sylvester
on 09 Jan 1786 in St. Cuthbert, Quebec
Their Daughter Josephte-Marie Thomas Dit Tranchemontagne Married Pierre
Chamaillard on 25 Nov 1804 in St. Genvieve, Quebec .
Josephte-Marie and Pierre had a Daughter Victoire Chamaillard who
married Pierre Lavallee on 30 Oct 1826 in Rigaud Québec
Pierre and Victoire had a Daughter Euphrasine Lavallee
She is my GGreat Grand mother
With my GGreat Grand father Francois Whom married Marie Josephete Sylvester
after she passed away He then married Marie Ann Denomme on 26 Nov
1798 in St.Cuthbert. Quebec
There Son Andre Thomas Dit Tranchemontagne Married Marie Louis Urbain
Dit Foucault on 04 Aug 1828 in Montebello, Quebec
Andre and Marie had a son named Francois Xavier Tranchemontagne
he is my GGreat Grand father.
Pretty Interesting I thought when I found all these Additional famillies to
make this even Stranger Andre Tranchemontange who married Marie Louis
Foucault is my hubbies 5th Great Grand Aunt. Marie had a Brother
Louis Foucault this is my Hubbies 5th Great Grand father.
200 year's later the Foucault Thomas lines meet again.
... Cheryl Thomas
December 17, 2004:
I am looking for info with regards to the Thomas-Tranchemontagne families
that lived in Montebello.
My great-grandmother was Alexandrine Thomas, b. 1864 died 1953. She was the
daughter of Edouard Thomas and Eleonore Bélanger. She was married to
Hillaire Carrière in Montebello in 1883.
Hillaire Carrière's brother, Joseph, married Saladine (Emilie) Thomas (dit
the daughter of François-Xavier and Marguerite Fortin. She was born in
Montebello in 1836, and married in Montebello Feb. 15, 1858. She died in
1888 in Montebello.
Saladine Carrière (Hillaire's sister), married Tréflé Thomas dit
Tranchemontagne, son of F. Xavier Thomas dit Tranchemontagne and Marguerite
Fortin, in Montebello, on July 29th, 1873.
I believe Saladine and Tréflé Thomas dit Tranchemontagne must have been
related to my great grandmother Alexandrine Thomas.
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
January 1, 2005:
Thanks to Frank Watters for this reply to Sue:
> Hi Sue;
> From the repertoire of bms Notre-Dame-de-Bonsecours, Montebello,
> 1815-1900 by the S.G.O. 2nd edition, 1992:
> Alexandrine-Elene, d/o Edouard THOMAS, farmer, and Eléonore BÉLANGER
> born on 23-02-1865 and baptised on 26-02-1865 in Montebello, with
> François Aubry and Reine Beauchamp as sponsors;
> Hilaire JEAMME, voyageur, s/o Norbert JEAMME, farmer, and Julie
> married Alexandrine THOMAS, d/o Edouard, farmer, and deceased Eléonore
> BÉLANGER in Montebello on 29-01-1883;
> Joseph CARRIÈRE, minor s/o Joseph and Julie RACICOT, married
> Emélie-Saladine THOMAS-die-TRANCHEMONTAGNE, d/o François-Xavier and
> deceased Marguerite FORTIN on 15-02-1858;
> Saladine-Emélie THOMAS, d/o François-Xavier and farmer, and Marguerite
> FORTIN, from Lake George, Upper Canada, was born on 15-04-1836 and
> baptised on 17-04-1836. Sp. Hyppolite Fortin and Emélie Dubreuil;
> Trefflé THOMAS, s/o age of Xavier and deceased Marguerite FORTIN,
> married Saladine JEAMME, minor dau. of Joseph JEAMME, farmer, and
> RACICOT on 29-07-1873;
> Edouard THOMAS-dit-TRANCHEMONTAGNE, son of age of Edouard and Euphémie
> GOYER-dite-BELISLE married Eléonard BÉLANGER, minor d/o Justinien and
> Rose QUESNEL from Alfred, On. on 13-11-1854;
> Edouard THOMAS-dit-TRANCHEMONTAGNE, s/o Edouard and Euphémie
> GOYER-dite-BELLISLE was born on 17-02-1831, bapt. the same day. Sp.
> Michel Beaudry and Marguerite Marcotte;
> Edouard THOMAS-DIT-TRANCHEMONTAGNE, widower of deceased Marguerite
> Sabourin, married Euphémie GOYER-dite-BELLE IlLE, minor d/o Augustin
> deceased Louise Aubry on 01-08-1827;
> Edouard, THOMAS-DIT-TRANCHEMONTAGNE, son of age of deceased Joseph and
> Mrie-Anne DÉNOMMÉE, married Marguerite Sabourin, minor dau. of age of
> Jean-Baptiste and Marie Josephte Charlebois on 24-01-1825;
> François-Xavier THOMAS-dit-TRANCHEMONTAGNE, son of age of deacesed
> Joseph and Marie-Anne DÉNOMMÉ married Marguerite FORTIN, d/o age of
> François-Xavier and Marie-Rosalie LEMIEUX on 01-08-1827
> So, as you can see, there was a definite relationship between
> Alexandrine and Trefflé Thomas.
> From the PRDH I have:
> Joseph THOMAS-dit-TRANCHEMONTAGNE s/o François and
> Marie-Louise-Pétronille BOULANGER married Marie-Anne DÉNOMMÉ, d/o
> and Marie-Anne DUBOIS in St-Cuthbert, Comté Berthier, Qc. on
> Hope this helps
> Frank Watters
also posted on January 1, 2005 from Cheryl:
I am not sure how to do this but wondered if there was a way you
could use this file (.pdf attachment) in your site?
I update my file at least once a week with new families so I never
now who I will be adding to, It may help many people looking into
this family if they are not sure where there Thomas line came from
and the Odd names that married in to them.
This file is 22 pages printed but if I turned it into a Genealogy
Report it is 96 pages printed, almost have my own Book LOL .
If you are not able to put it online not to worry but if you
find someone else asking and recall this file by all mean's let
them no about it. You might find some one in there you yourself
was wondering about?
Our work is never done.
January 15, 2004:
My mom is a Thomas dit Tranchemontagne.I have been doing my family tree
for the past five years. I have most of my straight line, but I have a
problem with Octave Thomas married to Marie Anne Hervieux.I don't know where
they got married, were born, or died. If anyone could help me, I would
really appreciate it. I'm from Hearst, Ontario. My grandfather Edmond came
from the Mont-Laurier, Mt-St-Michel, Ferme Neuve, St-Anne-Du-Lac area.
Good Luck in Your Search.
February 4, 2005:
I've been in contact with some of you in the past, but I notice a few
new posts in Bytown or Bust, notably Sue's and Frank's, who both seem to
have a good deal of information on the Thomas/Tranchemontagne family.
I would be interested in sharing what info I have (Andre Thomas dit
Tranchemontagne, who married Marie-Louise rbain dit
Foucault, is one of my Thomas ancestors).
Feel free to add me to the list at the website.
Thanks, and take care!
September 17, 2005:
Edmond Thomas married Marie-Anne Hervieux on 06/01/1918 at Ferme Neuve
(Mont Laurier area). Octave was his father.
Edmond b 28/04/1898 in St Rémi d'Amherst, QC (see next ... Al)
Please correct the mariage of Edmond and Marie Anne Herveux dit Therrien.
It should be Octave married to Marie Anne Herveux dit Therrien on 03/10/1897 in
St Rémi d'Amherst. Edmond was their son and he was baptised on 28/04/1898 in
St Rémi d'Amherst. He married Yvonne Pilon on 0/01/1918 in Ferme Neuve.
... André Lefort
Thanks for your e-mail regarding Edmond Thomas and his marriage to Marie_Anne Hervieux.
Do you mind if I add it to our web site, along with your e-mail address as a contact
for other researchers? Please let me know.
Small world. I was in Mont Laurier and Ferme Neuve early last month for a couple
of days. Real nice area.
Be my guest.....I found this marriage in the MFM microfilm of St Remi d'Amherst
where a lot of Thomas went from Montebello. It is the best source as it is a copy
of the original document that were written by a parish priest. I have a lot of
Thomas dit Tranchemontagne in my data. I use BROTHER'S KEEPER as my software. Not
all have been entered but with time I'm confident I will succeed. I have personnally
visited many of the Thomas family in Mont Laurier, St-Remi d'Amherst, St-Marguerite
du Lac Masson, St Jerome, Iroquois Fall, Ontario, Driftwood, Ontario, Cochrane,
Ontario Harrington, QC etc.
... André Lefort
December 4, 2005:
While visiting your site tonight, I noticed that many people were looking
for info on the Thomas Tranchemontagne family. In my Villeneuve website, I
have a PDF on the Thomas Tranchemontagne family tree. The URL is
(Note: This tree goes back to the 1600's ... Al)
January 22, 2006:
Hello.......I found your entry on Tranchemontagne while doing a Google search
of that name. I have Genevieve Thomas dit Tranchemontagne married to Jean-Baptiste
Major. Their son David Major married Eugenie or Elegina Major on Aug. 4 1884 in
St. Andre-Avellin, Quebec.
I also have Jean-Baptiste's & Genevieve's daughter Emma Rose Major marrying
Emile Major on July 30 1883 in St. Andre-Avellin, Quebec.
They may have been distant cousins?
I can tell you that it makes the Majors rather difficult to trace as Majors
married Majors & then in a later generation Majors married Gareaus.
Genevieve Thomas dit Tranchemontagne & Jean-Baptiste Major are my great great
great grandparents. I descend from Genevieve & Jean-Baptiste's son Emile Major &
Emma Rose Major are my great great grandparents. Their son Ovila Major married
Albina Venne & that couple would be my great grandparents.
Ovila Major's & Albina Venne's son Donat Major married Marie Mable Pamela Gareau
& that couple are my grandparents.
I am a direct decendant of Genevive Thomas dit Tranchemontagne & Jean-Baptiste Major.
I've really just begun working on the ancestry & any further info would be a
great help. I in turn will try & help you out with what I'm able too. As I said,
it's a tough job tracking the Majors!
Sincerely & with thanks
Susan Major Conrad
January 23, 2007:
My name is Sandra and I am a descendant in the Brule / Parent line. My cousin ,
Sandy has been working for over 2 years on that line and has over 4,000 names
in her file dating back to Seigneur Du Fief, Bernard, B: 1390
As I was browsing Bytown.net I came across your emails to each other and noticed
we had many of the same lines in our families.
I have downloading Sandy's GEDCOM. file to my site on Trible.com
I have many pictures, not alot of old ones except for the Sabourin
wedding picture and Victoire & Ovilla Marsolais and of course a family
picture of Jean Baptiste Parent and Lucinda Brule with all their children.
I would very much like to hear back from any of you for any feedback you may have.
Sandra (Cummings) Corvo
February 14, 2004:
Added e-mail address for Dennis Moore to the list below
July 3, 2007:
Hello, Raoul Thomas was my grandfather. He lived on a farm with his wife Ide
Deslaurier. They had 7 children, my mother being one of them. I will ask my mother
about her aunts and uncles. I will find out if there was any more children and when
Blanche was born.
I have been researching my Villeneuve and Bourguignon ancestors since January.
I saw the name Thomas-dit-Tranchemontagne in Ste-Madeleine Parish records from Rigaud,
I am a descendant of Lisette Thomas-dit-Tranchemontagne and the daughter of Joseph
Boivin, Sophie b. 3 Nov. 1835 in Rigaud. This fact was verified in Drouin.
Sophie married Narcisse Bourguignon in July of 1854 at St-Patrick of the Mount,
(Mount St. Patrick), Renfrew County. Sophie and Narcisse's daughter Julie is my
I have also seen the name Tranchemontagne while I was researching my Villeneuve
ancestors from Glengarry County. This family also goes back to Rigaud, Vaudreuil.
Hi Sylvia, Al, and others;
Your grandmother Pauline Thomas (dit Tranchemontagne) was the d/o Mederic Thomas
and Angelina Proulx. She was baptised under the names Marie Apoline in St Rémi
d'Amherst, on 11 March, 1906, born the same day. She married Russell McCutcheon,
s/o age of deceased Joseph McCutcheon and Margaret Young, from Rivington per the
marriage record, in Pointe-au-Chêne on 27 November, 1920. Rivington is not far
from Harrington, both in the County of Argenteuil. Russell McCutcheon was a
Protestant while Pauline was a Catholic, and thus a special dispensation was obtained.
Mederic was the son of Adolphe and Lucie Desormeaux, and he was born on 11 June,
1879, and baptised in Montebello on 10 Sept., 1879.
This family went by the name of THOMAS.
Adolphe Thomas, widower of Julie Racicot, s/o Joseph Thomas and Emelie Dubreuil
married Julie Desormeaux, d/o deceased Ambroise Racicot and Angelique Chalifoux
in Montebello on 10 July, 1876.
I found children of Mederic and Angelina Proulx as follows:
Joseph Raoul, born 4 Sept., 1904
Marie Apoline, born 11 March, 1906
Marie Yvonne Valentine, born 16 Nov., 1919 (see next e-mail from Frank)
Joseph Eugene Zotique, born 10 Sept., 1912 (This baptism was performed at
Harrignton, Qc. which was a mission of Pointe-au-Chêne)
Albert Leopold, born 16 Sept., 1916
Joseph Lambert, born 26 March, 1920
William Jean, born 21 Sept. 1923.
Marie Blanche, date of birth unknown, but born after 10 June 1903
Jean Baptiste, about the same age as Marie Blanche perhaps
I can't be sure that there were no more children. All the children except for
Joseph Raoul who was baptised in Ponsonby, and Pauline who was baptised in St-Rémi
d'Amherst were baptised in Pointe-au-Chêne, a little hamlet on the Ottawa River
just a few miles from Calumet. Seems the family lived at least for a certain time
in Harrignton. That's not far from Rivington, Lost Valley, and other small places
with picturesque names in Argenteuil County, Quebec.
All the above from the microfilms by Drouin for Pointe-au-Chêne, St-Rémi d'Amherst
Hope this helps
... Frank Watters.
Thank you Al for your encouraging words;
However I made an error in a year of birth, and have since found more children
for Mederic Thomas and Angelina Proulx.
First the correction: Marie Yvonne Valentine was born on 16 Nov., 1919, not 1910;
Then I added:
Mederique Thomas born on July 7, 1901 nd died on17 Nov., 1901;
Marie Cécile Anne Thomas was born on 6 May, 1908;
Joseph Hubert Lionel Thomas was born on 25 June, 1910;
Marie Annette Blanche Desneiges Thomas was born on 17 November, 1907.
I wasn't able to find Jean Baptiste's birth, but André Lefort says he was
born on 1 July, 1903. André also gave me the names of the first three missing
children above and I found their baptisms in Boileau (Ponsonby) (Mederique)
and St-Rémi d'Amherst (Cécile, Lionel and Blanche) through the on-line Drouin Colection.
From what I could see, the Thomas family and their related families must have
kept the St-Rémi d'Amherst church going all by themselves since the majority of
the church services involved the Thomas family, the Chalifoux, Proulx, Zandre / Zanth,
etc. who were related.
I've added the previous exchanges below and all the names of those who are
interested since some Thomas enquirers were not copied previously.
January 19, 2009:
Hello Cheryl, Martin, Pamela and all.
Further to my email to you last February 29th, Eric Mardoc has prepared a Newsletter
(in French) for the ancestors of François THOMAS dit Tranchemontagne to which you can
subscribe, if interested. Subscription orders can be placed through me as is described on
the webpage at:
The subscription will entitle you to receive updates.
Enjoy the search for our roots,
E-mail Cheryl Thomas, Ellen Paul, Frank Watters, Pam, François E. Guenette, Eric Tranchemontagne, Sue, Dany, Martin Lacoste, André Lefort, Pierette Villeneuve, Susan Major Conrad, Sandra Corvo, Dennis Moore, Pamela, Lise, Bob Thomas and Al Lewis
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