Gatineau Valley, Quebec, Canada, in the 1800's

also Surnames of the Algonquin Band in Eastern Ontario and Western Quebec

September 20, 2011:

My name is Roger Flansberry from Gatineau, originally from Maniwaki.
Retired for many years, I have been researching extensively on my different
genealogical lineages and also helping others to build up family trees.
I have been in touch closely and regularly with the Bytown or Bust website
which I consider a "must genealogical site" for all researchers of this area.

Among the genealogical lineages I have been researching, there is one in 
particular which I was wondering If you would have any information or
suggestion to help clarifying.
It is the couple Alexis Morin - Mary Ann Metorvist Natawissi (Mary-Ann also carried surnames such as Natopesi). 
This last surname is taken from a bms2000 marriage record on her son Alexis Morin married to Matiwin Twenish 
(Antoine and Catinin Jibatikokwe in Maniwaki, 27/7/1886).
According to the Pembroke Missions (1839-42 OGS mic 469, Alexis married Marie Anne Pinekijikokwe (also known
as Pinensikijikokwe, in Rocheleau Quebec.) 
That marriage certificate states that Alexis Morin married Marie Anne Pinekijikokwe also known as 
That marriage brought the attention of a researcher who thought having found Mary Ann's ascendants:
Simon Pinesi Chawenasiketch and Marie Angelique Ozabikwe (married August 31 1818).
All we have on this couple is that they had seven known children born between 1840-1855 in the Maniwaki area.
I have complete ascendance of Alexis Morin. He was also remarried to Henriette Menard September 10 1857 in Maniwaki. 
No date or information on Mary Ann death, burial...and parents.
Please do not take these as a research task...
Just wonder since there is a large number of native materials on your site (Bytown or Bust) I was 
wondering if you would have any material on that couple elsewhere or any orientation for me to take.
Maybe this inquiry could (should) be posted on your site...?
Roger F

Good morning, Roger:

Here is a baptism, recorded at Notre Dame in downtown Ottawa.
29 Jun 1842 
Baptism of Adeline, born 19 March of the marriage of Alexis Morin and Marie Ann Nosaugo of Templeton
Godparents: Godfroi Morin & Adeline Morin
Source: DROUIN Collection at
... Al
September 23, 2011: Hello Roger, Surnames of The Algonquin people, transcription of names, etc. I find Mary Ann's ascendant Simon Pinesi Chawenasiketch and Mary Ann's names Pinensikijikokwe and Pinekijikokwe interesting and am wondering if there is a relationship with Grand Chief Constant Penency whose hunting grounds were what we now call the Greater Ottawa area. As you well know, names such as Penency are contractions of longer names such as possibly Pinensikijikokwe which in turn is variable and not permanent since a man's name may change over a lifetime. I believe this is the same with Sharbot, Shabot, Chabot which is likely a shortened form of a much longer name which I have not yet found. The Shabots and the Penensis (Partridge) have been classified as "Oka" Anishinabek because they are known to have spent summers in Oka / Kanesatake. Phil Jenkins' book An Acre of Time has much information on Pierre Louis Constant Penency. I am also interested in Alexis Morin's lineage. My Great-grandfather was a Morin originally from Ste Scholastique Quebec who settled with his sons and brothers in Curran, Ontario, in the mid-1800's. There may be a relationship. Years ago, I got interested in the Shabot Obaadjiwan Nation of Sharbot Lake, Ontario, and then got interested and involved in doing substantive research at Library and Archives Canada on the subject of the Algonquins of Eastern Ontario. It's fascinating because of the paucity of written documentation and very liberal and traditional living and marital arrangements of First Nation people. They were and probably still are living according to their customs, not white man's customs. However, that was years ago and I became less interested and kind of dropped the thread in that area of genealogical research. There was an early 20th Century ethnicologist paper studying the various hunting family groups from Kitigan Zibi and mention was made of aboriginal full names being often shortened to a shorter form or nickname or even an English or French equivalent. It's just like teenagers having names for each other. When there are no written records, sometimes those names stick for good. An example of this are the Whiteducks whose name in their language refers to a white duck. The same with the partridge family group which has different English names of which one is Pinensi. Constant Penency's signature at the bottom of a letter was that of a little bird. (see symbol signature on the Drouin record, below). The Chabot of Maniwaki and the Sharbot of Sharbot Lake probably have common ancestors whose name probably started by something that sounded like "Shobot something". What is written on paper is merely the English spelling equivalent of an oral expression. That's my theory, I have no proof. If you are interested, there are a number of microfiched theses available at the LAC. I also have stuff stashed away in my filing cabinets but I haven't looked at these for years. Probably take a while to find them also. My Great-grandmother was Arthémise Morin and her father (my g-g-grandfather) was Jean-Baptiste Morin and he settled in Curran, Ontario, North Plantagenet Township). I have his lineage all the way to Pierre Morin, the ancestor who set foot in New France. Pre-1800 French-Canadian genealogy is so extensive that I haven't bothered with siblings and I probably do not care much. I just mentioned him in case there was a link to your research on Alexis Morin. In fact, there probably is but they may have been cousins many times removed. If I discover anything about Simon Pinesi Chawenasiketch, I will let you know. That information probably came from the baptismal records of the Oka (Kanesatake) Mission. These is a gentlemen of Mohawk descent who passed away last year (can't remember his name on the spur of the moment) who published much information based on these baptismal records. That's also available at the LAC. Yes, stay in touch. Bonsoir, ... Jean-Claude Dubé _____________________ and thanks to Taylor Kennedy for the following: Al You know I like to help out but finding Natives names spelled in unreadable French language, barely legible is a challenge. However the Maniwaki native Alexander Morin's wife Mary Ann aka Marguerite Natawissi had a child in 1853 and Alex remarried in 1857 to Henriette Menard so Mary Ann died between 1853 and 1856. The faded records are very hard to read most of the times but I did find some. One interesting one is Louis Pinesi dit Comandant / Commanda, Algonquin Grand Chief (COMMANDA ?) and his wife died in 1834.
Source for the record below: (thanks, Taylor) The DROUIN Collection, for Oka (Kanesatake), at note the symbol signature on the Drouin record, below
... Taylor ________________________________ New September 24, 2011: and back to Jean-Claude: Hello Al, This is very interesting and may open a still largely unknown history of the presence of Algonquins in the Ottawa area. In the 1834 sepultural entry, I read: (margin): S Pre Ls Pinesi (text) : Aujoud'hui quatorze Aout mil huit cent trente quatre par nous pretre soussignéa été inhumé Pierre Louis Pinesi dit Constant grand chef Algonquin décédé la veille à l'age de soixante six ans environ de cette mission. Etant présents à l'inhumation François Carrier? Papréver? et Jean Baptiste Kikons sousignés (signature): Kikons JeanBatis + hieroglyph (illegible priest signature) I do not know Chief William Commanda's genealogy and there may be a relationship. However, the text here is definitely "dit Constant" (There is a Constant Lake near Constance Bay in Torbolton Township, supposedly named for an early First Nations fur trader named "Constant". Also, Constant Creek flows into Calabogie Lake on the Madawaska River system. This brings me back to Phil Jenkins's book, An Acre of Time. Phil has Pierre Louis Constant Penency born around 1786 and being possibly buried in Burnstown, on the Madawaska River. Phil was not able to confirm the death, however. It may very well be that our Ottawa Constant Penency may be the same person and that he passed away in Oka / Kanesatake on the 14th of August 1834. I doubt very much that there would have been two Grand Chiefs with the same name and surname. (Constant may be a hereditary attribute to a social position (?) ). Note also that his wife passed away shortly after him. There was a cholera epidemic in Montreal in the early 1830's (25% of the population died, if I remember well). His wife also has Pinesi as part of her name which I find surprising and may need to be explained by a more knowledgeable person. What is noteworthy is the sepulture witness Jean-Baptiste Kikons (also spelt Kikonce). There is a Nipissing site (the Nipissings and the Algonquins were closely related in Ontario) that talks of Jean Baptiste Constant, Grand Chief Kikons, son of Jean Louis Constant, Grand Chief Penency. Apparently Grand Chief Jean Baptiste Kikons aka Constant died as an elderly man in the Burnstown, Ont area, which ties in with Phil Jenkins' interpretation although he may have mistaken the son for the father (?). Also, Phil Jenkins writes that Pierre Louis Constant Penency fathered four sons. (caveat: Algonquins were Christians by convenience mostly and some children born away from the mission may not have ever been baptized). If Kikons became Grand Chief in 1837, it would have been after the death of Constant Penency in Oka / Kanesatake in 1834) (petitions) Jean-Claude Dubé _____________________________________ and my 2 cents worth (Al): In Renfrew County, the name CONSTANT is remembered by the naming of Constant Creek for the Algonquin man Simon Constant. This creek flows into the north/west side of Calabogie Lake not far from Burnstown. Before the Barrett Shute Dam was built, Constant Creek flowed directly into the Madawaska River. Until recently, John Jocko (another Algonquin man) ran a lodge where Constant Creek flows into the Lake. Also, here is information about Alexis Morin and Mary Ann NATAWISSI (the origin of this web page). The different spelling of Mary Ann's surname is probably due to spelling / transcription. 29 Jun 1842 Baptism of Adeline, born 19 March of the marriage of Alexis Morin and Marie Ann Nosaugo of Templeton Godfroi Morin & Adeline Morin Source: Notre Dame records from the DROUIN collection at ... Al

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